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Monday, July 10, 2023

The Legal System and Aviation

 Is There Justice?

The Curious "Cases"of 
Federal Judge Robert S. Lasnik
United States District Court 
for the Western District of Washington

"I'm a judge and you can't touch me!"

Disclaimer: All quoted statements under Judge Lasnik's pictures are "captions"... not his actual statements. 

Appointed by former President Bill Clinton, Judge Lasnik has "Senior Status,"  He was also assigned to my DFR lawsuit against ALPA. But let's back up a bit....

Delta paid Dr. David B. Altman $74,000 in their retaliatory effort to get rid of me for bringing forth safety concerns.  Check out the Maximus video. if you're new to this event. Delta lost. Delta lost again in appeal. They finally threw in the towel. I retired from Delta thereafter because nobody was held accountable. 

Delta has a policy that retaliation will not be tolerated subject to termination, yet nobody was disciplined; all were either promoted or retained their same positions. I'm most certain when the CEO/Chairman of the board is involved, you cannot discipline others and allow yourself to go unscathed. 

The FAA has a little thing called a reporting culture that supports a Federal Regulation called SMS. Yet, they, too, have looked the other way. 

Unfortunately ALPA helped Delta, directed by National ALPA where Delta runs that pilot union. You can find the list of  grievances I was fighting for the pilots here, and ALPA threw me under the bus. All grievances were thrown out. ALPA even signed a letter enabling Delta to take me back to court with a collateral estoppel claim. 

I had gone years fighting this Delta battle alone, and the thousands of dollars I paid in dues be damned! What can be done?

"Come on, what's the problem she got her job back?"

The Final Straw. The Grievance: 

At the opening of the grievance hearing Jeff Wall, Delta's attorney stated:  

"This proceeding here, in the view of Delta Air Lines, is not a proceeding in which the Association and Delta are necessarily opposing parties.

 First Officer Petitt has repeatedly criticized, and I would suggest even defamed representatives of the Association, including representatives of the national organization for ALPA, local counsel for ALPA, and other ALPA representatives, including what’s known as AMAS, of ALPA Aeromedical."

Jeff Loesel (Jeffrey.Loesel@alpa.org) my National ALPA attorney remained silent. He did not object that ALPA and Delta were not opposing parties. His silence told arbitrator Gerald E. Wallin that he agreed with Jeff Wall and that Delta and ALPA were in this together against me. 


After ALPA signed the Document 
That sent me Back to Court
I finally filed that DFR
Duty of Fair Representation

And Judge Lasnik was assigned!

"Cross my heart I would never..." 

I thought Lasnik was a labor judge and might believe in the sanctity of the union representing pilots. Then it occurred to me, if he was a Labor guy, would he rule in favor of the union despite what they did? But truth be told, the numbers of ways that ALPA did not defend me were too many and too obvious. And an ALPA National attorney telling the arbitrator he agreed with Delta by silence, a tacit agreement they were on the same side, could not be over looked. 

June 3, 2021, Judge Lasnik Ruled in 
Favor of ALPA

"You don't understand...it's far too technical" 

Judge Lasnik did not believe that the ALPA attorney's silence, when Delta said they were on the same side, followed by Arbitrator Wallin immediately requesting a "ten minute break" so he could “Sit here and think about things for a while" had any bearing on Wallin's decision.  

Because Judge Lasnik decided that Loesel's and Delta's actions were above board, he would not allow all other facts of the case into the trial, because they were time-barred. Judge Lasnik is a voracious reader, and I would bet  that he's read the Federalist Papers No 78 and knows that the reason the AIR21 law was enacted because safety cannot be in the hands of a businessman... the arbitrator. They can be bought. 

I also had two other cases, both fraud. One against Dr. Altman and the other against Delta's in house attorney, Christopher Puckett. 

"Yeah baby... I can take care of these cases too!"

December 7, 2021 
Both Fraud Cases 
are Re-Assigned to Judge Lasnik! 

Despite a few holiday's and a typical Federal judge's workload, within only 5 months he ruled in favor of Delta... I mean Puckett. I filed an appeal in the 9th circuit but ended dropping it after a Delta attorney had told me that Delta had engaged a war of attrition on me. What could I do? I did not have the inclination to fight the losing battle with very deep pockets. 

But I proceeded with Dr. Altman's case. 

"It's not my fault... it's called power, money and politics"

January 31, 2023 I retired because a captain should not have to look over her shoulder for the remainder of her career, or deal with ongoing insidious ways that a management team could legally retaliate. The many ways I experienced retaliation, from the moment Delta lost the case, took my health. Delta's retaliation even grounded passengers from Seattle to Amsterdam when scheduling refused me the flight to avoid paying me a greenslip. Pilots should focus on flying, not what the company will do next. And no amount of money or any job is worth your health 

Coincidentally, the day I retired... 

January 31, 2023, 
Judge Lasnik 
Ruled in Favor 
of Dr. Altman! 

"The coincidence was only this big"

I filed a motion to reconsider because he not only ruled incorrectly on the facts, but I had new evidence to admit. Dr. Chien, an FAA approved AME  acknowledged that Dr. Altman was “his mentor”, that he “taught him his process”, that “doctors can be bought,” and that “this (buying doctors) is a dirty business.” Of course Lasnik will see reason. Nope. 

May 05/2023
Judge Lasnik 
Denied My  Motion

"You've got to see it my way...If so, I'll sell you 
some oceanside property in Oklahoma." 

July 9, 2023
I filed an Appeal in 
The 9th Circuit Court

Judge Lasnik cannot possibly have an unbiased opinion in this case due to his participation in the process that relieved Delta’s other collaborators from liability. If this were to go to trial, that information becomes public and the world will see his faulty ruling in both Puckett and ALPA. 

Delta cannot allow this to go to to trial because the world will see the details of what they did and the players involved. Furthermore, Judge Lasnik erroneously applied the applicable motion to dismiss standard and incorrectly considered documents outside of the pleadings. 

What Judge Lasnik did was enmeshed a Pro Se litigant in a procedural web and failed to judge on the merits of the case. 

Shame, shame on Judge Lasnik! 

"Who me?" YES YOU! 


Please Join me in a Prayer
That the 9th Circuit of Appeals 
Will allow me to proceed with this case!


This is the final opportunity to 
hold someone accountable
in the interest of Aviation Safety!

In the Interest of Justice! 


Enjoy the Journey
Dr. Karlene Petitt
PhD. MBA. MHS.
A350, B777, A330, B747-400, B747-200, B767, B757, B737, B727

4 comments:

  1. Hopefully you get that miracle. It is a shame that pilots at most airlines are too afraid to address safety issues as it equates to career suicide. UPS obtained false statements from pilots with substance abuse issues to target and end safety whistleblower Captain Douglas Greene’s 20 year UPS career and UPS attempted to end his flying career for good. Using sick employees as a weapon to target Veterans is deplorable. Good luck Karlene and keep on enjoying your well deserved retirement. # End UPS Management Retaliation

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    1. Thank you. If not... then onto plan B. Because, I am beginning to believe there is no justice. Far too many people are being harmed within the system. I'm going to try to end all retaliation!

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  2. WOW 🤩 Karlene, it emphatically appears there is “NO JUSTICE.” Capt Doug Greene here, absolutely AMAZING work exposing OBVIOUS & OVERT U.S. Federal Court corruption to our only legitimate venue = the Court of Public Opinion (COPU).

    Lasnik clone Judge, cut from the same cloth, in my rigged UPS cases, was Western KY District Court Judge Thomas B. Russell (Mitch McConnell friend & Crony) who did exactly the same literally SEIZING all 3 of my cases:

    1) DFR against IPA, who was also aligned with the Company against me & literally helped draft/fabricate the false statements from DUI pilots (unlawfully undisclosed to FAA) that I never even flew with of which we have evidence to that affect.

    2) Petition to Vacate Arbitrator decision that was entirely based on false & fictitious fraud from UPS & troubled pilots coerced by UPS to perjure themselves.

    3) Law suit against the UPS hired outside law firm Frost Brown Todd (FBT) and their ring leader Attorney, Tony Coleman that’s been fraudulently targeting unwanted good UPS employees for decades now. Of which my only success was forcing FBT to recuse their representation of UPS in my case.

    Like you referred to in your blog, because I was a Pro Se litigant the judges & UPS attorneys always had utter contempt for me knowing that they could keep EVERYTHING within their little circle/sphere of influence believing “No One Will Ever Know.”

    I had a case conference call with the Judge & the entire UPS Cabal of attorneys in the summer of 2015, which I recorded. After the judge said we were off the record and they believed I had hung up, I continued to memorize the back slapping good ole boys mocking me with FBT counsel stating he wanted to get this over with as soon as possible with Judge Russell sarcastically saying:

    “I get it, you want to be the first one in, and the first one out, no problem.”

    They were all cackling in the background as if was just a big game of Fraud Upon the Court, literally being committed “BY” the Court.

    I filed motions to reconsider to no avail. I filed Appeals to Russell’s buddies at the 6th Circuit (catching them in fraud purposely tampering with my pleadings). I filed for a Petition for Rehearing En Banc where I caught the 6th Circuit purposely trying to time me out. Then I filed a Petition for Writ of Certiorari to the SCOTUS to ONLY be dismissed & never heard through all the Dark Money corrupt connections at every single level of adjudication.

    I honorably served 22 years as a highly decorated USAF pilot “purportedly” defending the very rights and freedoms of the American 🇺🇸 People that you & I have been OVERTLY DENIED at all costs to protect the Dark Money 💰 Corporations that control a Country that’s lost its way. But WE FIGHT ON, NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE.

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  3. Doug, I thought you would appreciate this story of shifting judges. I am so sorry this all happened, and proud you are trying to fight this to help others coming up behind you! Hang in there!

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