tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post4339303530764833692..comments2024-03-27T08:36:31.252-07:00Comments on Flight To Success: Positive Space Tickets for Commuters?Karlene Petitthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17910702587514001827noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-6354448080454468052011-03-31T09:20:37.265-07:002011-03-31T09:20:37.265-07:00Thank you CJH! I just fixed the link. I couldn'...Thank you CJH! I just fixed the link. I couldn't even access the page. Spread the word!Karlene Petitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17910702587514001827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-67784868846439675602011-03-31T09:18:51.599-07:002011-03-31T09:18:51.599-07:00Hi Lori, you're right. But at the end of the g...Hi Lori, you're right. But at the end of the game... it's worth it. I'm also realizing a lot of students graduate with $150,000 loans and can't get a job. Or they do and they're earning potential is capped at moderate rate. It's a tough world out there. I hope we can get many people taking this survey.Karlene Petitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17910702587514001827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-19809422053384824972011-03-31T09:09:56.775-07:002011-03-31T09:09:56.775-07:00Hi Dan, Thanks for your comment. In theory... you ...Hi Dan, Thanks for your comment. In theory... you are right! <br /><br />And guess what... "All" pilots want to live near in base. The problem is the instability of the industry and the job. <br /><br />When I got hired by Braniff, I didn't make my husband quit his work and move my family to Kansas City to follow the job. Good thing! Braniff filed bankruptcy and onto the next airline. Arizona. New York. Guyana.... how many moves could we make?<br /><br />It took me 23 years to have enough seniority to be based at home. And if my base shrinks, and I'm bumped out and "forced" to move to Detroit, or Atlanta... what do I do? <br /><br />Have my husband quit his job? Try to sell our house in a depressed market? Move away from the kids and grandkids? Leave my husbands elderly mother? And then I get bumped out and the cycle begins, again. <br /><br />One of the best things in the world is to be based at home. If there was a guarantee that a base wouldn't close, a merger wouldn't happen, the airline wouldn't go away... yes, we could all make that commitment to live where we're based. <br /><br />The only guarantee is instability. The only thing we as pilots can do for our families is give them some stability in their lives by not continually uprooting them. <br /><br />It's tough. But worth it. And just like the trip I'm on now... it started with a commute to Atlanta. But with a positive space ticket. Very nice.Karlene Petitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17910702587514001827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-35189414185863783262011-03-31T08:56:38.563-07:002011-03-31T08:56:38.563-07:00Hi DB... hopefully this study will help make thing...Hi DB... hopefully this study will help make things better. I'm thinking so. This is one of those industries that you have to love it, to live it. <br />Thanks for the comment!Karlene Petitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17910702587514001827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-25132995905397176942011-03-31T07:44:03.157-07:002011-03-31T07:44:03.157-07:00The survey is great. Check the link, though. I h...The survey is great. Check the link, though. I had to delete some extra gobbledegook before the true URL to get to the survey.unigarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13629714512733255414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-72712674384749394792011-03-31T05:24:14.551-07:002011-03-31T05:24:14.551-07:00Thank you all for particpating! Students in 4 year...Thank you all for particpating! Students in 4 year aviation programs are now graduating with over $150,000 in student loans...Are we setting them up for success or failure here? With starting salaries around $25,000, and poor working conditions, many of the brightest and best are leaving the industry.Lori Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08303220830105491277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-86030383005917294512011-03-30T13:03:49.183-07:002011-03-30T13:03:49.183-07:00Not to rain on the parade, but the way I see it, p...Not to rain on the parade, but the way I see it, pilots commute long distances to their base because they CAN. Non-rev and jump seat privileges make it possible to do so. In most occupations, to accept a job one needs to relocate to where that job is.<br /><br />I understand that another of the differences is that the commute is not a daily one. Most 'trips' are for multiple days. However, it seems to me that fatigue issues and quality of life issues would be much better if pilots were required to live near base.<br /><br />If the relocation is not palatable, perhaps you can't accept that position.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-70327655919098540642011-03-30T11:53:36.353-07:002011-03-30T11:53:36.353-07:00Well, here's one person with a Masters in Air ...Well, here's one person with a Masters in Air Transport Engineering and a commercial pilot's license who is not, and will not be employed as a pilot, at least until I'm done with making money to pay the bills from the wireless networking industry. Couldn't take the pay reduction, stress and all the other issues related to starting over. The industry is broken. It used to be good. I hope this type of study can help to mend it.D.B.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16311812701887962320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-68298901812266114602011-03-30T10:27:46.425-07:002011-03-30T10:27:46.425-07:00Thank you Heather! So much change happens that isn...Thank you Heather! So much change happens that isn't positive...so we need to fight for the good stuff. We must tell administrators,"Change is good." Especially this kind of change.Karlene Petitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17910702587514001827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-89057187121149831082011-03-30T10:26:30.559-07:002011-03-30T10:26:30.559-07:00Thank you Andrew. Share this with as many people y...Thank you Andrew. Share this with as many people you can. I'm hoping we can make it great for all the new pilots...and reduce the stress of the current pilots, too. You will have a great career!Karlene Petitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17910702587514001827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-71139699165879202022011-03-30T10:25:30.962-07:002011-03-30T10:25:30.962-07:00Thank you Linda. Yes, something needs to be done. ...Thank you Linda. Yes, something needs to be done. And... it will! We hope.Karlene Petitthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17910702587514001827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-28770522346330840942011-03-30T10:23:44.451-07:002011-03-30T10:23:44.451-07:00Bravo Lori! It is time for change in the industry ...Bravo Lori! It is time for change in the industry and power to those who are fighting to make that change a positive one!Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130733681254163610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-17933870467152440402011-03-30T09:58:27.199-07:002011-03-30T09:58:27.199-07:00Thanks Karlene! This has been something that's...Thanks Karlene! This has been something that's been tugging at my mind for some time now, more-so now that I'm finally slowly beginning the path back toward an aviation career. With a family, residence in Chicago with a mortgage and such, I always worried what would happen when it came time to work for an airline and having to commute. All those questions are good and are the issue must be addressed. The starting pay already sucks, add in the stress and issues with commuting or being forced to relocate and it's not a positive recruitment standpoint. Looking forward to the results of the study.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-352377410388410195.post-66890396553491864872011-03-30T09:57:29.868-07:002011-03-30T09:57:29.868-07:00This is fascinating, Karlene. Can't wait to se...This is fascinating, Karlene. Can't wait to see the results. Sounds like SOMETHING needs to be done to make sure people in these crucial jobs are supported well.Linda Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18001433214194860481noreply@blogger.com